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Raiin Maker · Oct 27, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14

what would you choose to do pvp on?

i use a pvp char, because i have perfect items, runes and skills unlocked on it. i can see why people would use there pve char, as its good exp, but i guess they would be at a huge disadvantage, unless they we're very rich, or very lucky...

what type of char do you use for pvp? and why?

and if you dont pvp, what do you think you would use?

MSecorsky · Oct 27, 2005, 03:42 PM // 15:42

PvP ranger, for the perfect items of course. There's nothing that I need from PvE for my PvP guy, including unlocked skills thanks to the permanent faction boost.

Deviant · Oct 27, 2005, 03:42 PM // 15:42

3 PvE characters comprising of all 6 professions for the purpose of a perfected PvP character. Ugh. It just takes a long time to get there. Agreed that a PvE character is probably a better choice until you have more unlocked unless you are using a pre-made.

NatalieD · Oct 27, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by Deviant

Agreed that a PvE character is probably a better choice until you have more unlocked unless you are using a pre-made.

But... any skill you have on a PVE character, you can have on a PVP character...

It's PVP characters all the way for me. I'd much rather unlock stuff with faction than slog through more PVE. I do wish I could get some of the PVE characters' cosmetic options, though.

Ollj · Oct 27, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48

customized green items

Man With No Name · Oct 27, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50

It should be PvP characters -- but the PvE characters have a few distinct advantages with regards to equipment.

Things like the (Warrior) Lieutenants Helm can cut the length of a hex by 50%, if I'm not mistaken. That alone is quite an advantage -- and one that renders some hexes useless.

I had the brief pleasure to play with a Warrior from iQ who used:
-Lieutenants Helm
-Gladiators Chest, Leggings and Hands
-Knights Boots
-Tanzit's Defender -- Quick recovery from Blind, -2 dmg in Stance ( http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Tanzit%27s_Defender )
-1x Sword, 1x Vampiric Sword

Compared to my PvP character
-Weapon Helm +1
-Gladiators Chest, Leggings and Hands
-Knights Boots
-PvP Shield +45 Health whilst Hexed, -2 dmg whilst Hexed
-1x Sundering Axe, 1x Vampiric Axe

Immediately you can see that my PvP pre-made is flawed from the offset -- despite having all the perfect gear unlocked.
The PvE character loses the temporary health but recovers from Blind 50% faster, Hexes also last for a shorter duration.

Once they fix these small discrepancies it'll be PvP characters all the way.

Morganas · Oct 27, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06

There's a helm that can cut hex duration?! Ugh, +1 attribute point helms are trivial compared to that sort of bonus. That shield isn't too bad, you should bring condition removal with a team with warriors anyways, so its a non-issue, but that helm should definitely not be allowable in pvp, unless all pvp helms are given similarly powerful bonuses (which would be bad IMO).

Although... a 50% cut in hex duration would allow wastrels to own that warrior, but who bring wastrels anyways?

OrangeArrow · Oct 27, 2005, 05:08 PM // 17:08

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Originally Posted by Man With No Name

It should be PvP characters -- but the PvE characters have a few distinct advantages with regards to equipment.

Things like the (Warrior) Lieutenants Helm can cut the length of a hex by 50%, if I'm not mistaken. That alone is quite an advantage -- and one that renders some hexes useless.

I had the brief pleasure to play with a Warrior from iQ who used:
-Lieutenants Helm
-Gladiators Chest, Leggings and Hands
-Knights Boots
-Tanzit's Defender -- Quick recovery from Blind, -2 dmg in Stance ( http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Tanzit%27s_Defender )
-1x Sword, 1x Vampiric Sword

Compared to my PvP character
-Weapon Helm +1
-Gladiators Chest, Leggings and Hands
-Knights Boots
-PvP Shield +45 Health whilst Hexed, -2 dmg whilst Hexed
-1x Sundering Axe, 1x Vampiric Axe

Immediately you can see that my PvP pre-made is flawed from the offset -- despite having all the perfect gear unlocked.
The PvE character loses the temporary health but recovers from Blind 50% faster, Hexes also last for a shorter duration.

Once they fix these small discrepancies it'll be PvP characters all the way.

whats to keep you from putting your shield in storage and using it on your pvp char

Man With No Name · Oct 27, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by Morganas

There's a helm that can cut hex duration?! Ugh, +1 attribute point helms are trivial compared to that sort of bonus. That shield isn't too bad, you should bring condition removal with a team with warriors anyways, so its a non-issue, but that helm should definitely not be allowable in pvp, unless all pvp helms are given similarly powerful bonuses (which would be bad IMO).

It's the 60 +10 Vs Physical helm from the "Henge of Denravi" even with the loss of armour to the head -- it's really a non-issue.
The actual description reads "Shortens duration of Hexes cast on you"

EDIT Just checked it 50% less hexed time -- so that's 3 second Diversions, 9 second Imagined Burden's and so on -- you get the idea

The shield....I guess the real question is if you want 45 temporary hit points whilst [x condition] happens or whether you want Blind to end faster or some other benefit.

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Originally Posted by OrangeArrow

whats to keep you from putting your shield in storage and using it on your pvp char

As for using PvE equipment on PvP characters -- it's sadly not possible -- it gets customised to the person who purchased it :'(

Yichi · Oct 27, 2005, 05:19 PM // 17:19

I have 3 PVE chars that make up all 6 professions (W/R, Mo/Me, and E/N) and one dedicated pvp char slot. I use that slot of any CA/GVG/Tombs as i can always remake it to whatever build suits my team the best, and i dont have to spend a huge wad of cash for perfect items and runes, just faction which i can earn back in less time than to farm 100k for a sup absorb or 70k for a sup vigor

MSecorsky · Oct 27, 2005, 05:19 PM // 17:19

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Originally Posted by Man With No Name

As for using PvE equipment on PvP characters -- it's sadly not possible -- it gets customised to the person who purchased it :'(

Not shields, and not weapons unless you get them from the collector or have them customized yourself.

At least I've never heard of customized shields...

Yichi · Oct 27, 2005, 05:20 PM // 17:20

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Originally Posted by Man With No Name

As for using PvE equipment on PvP characters -- it's sadly not possible -- it gets customised to the person who purchased it :'(

Items in PVE are only customized for that char when you take it to the weapons crafter and have it customized. I could go grab a yakslapper from my stash and use it on any pvp monk at any time if i chose too

Swordzkof · Oct 27, 2005, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by Man With No Name

As for using PvE equipment on PvP characters -- it's sadly not possible -- it gets customised to the person who purchased it :'(

I think you have that backwards. I use PvE equipment on my PvP all the time. Simply place the item in storage. It's the PvP items that can't be swapped out to your PvE, since they are customized for the PvP character.

Man With No Name · Oct 27, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

Items in PVE are only customized for that char when you take it to the weapons crafter and have it customized. I could go grab a yakslapper from my stash and use it on any pvp monk at any time if i chose too

The weapons and the shield aren't really the problem -- I can make an Axe/Staff/Bow that's equal to or better than any PvE Axe -- it's the Helm, me wants :'(

And since it's a piece of armour from a collector/merchant -- it's a no no :S

EDIT: Your all correct -- I should've left less room for mis-interpretation. Weapons and Shields -- yes. Armour -- no

tlr1293 · Oct 27, 2005, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by Swordzkof

I think you have that backwards. I use PvE equipment on my PvP all the time. Simply place the item in storage. It's the PvP items that can't be swapped out to your PvE, since they are customized for the PvP character.

Pvp equipment in PvE - not happening, BUT...

My PvE Bow is customized for my PvE character and cannot be utilized by my PvP, even if put in storage. That extra 20% dmg in PvE helps enough to customize.

Yakslapper - why customize in PvE, not needed for damage?

romO · Oct 27, 2005, 05:41 PM // 17:41

well i use a pve character when i need to play mesmer because he has all the best equipment, necessary runes, fissure armor. when i need to play any of the other 5 classes, i just make a pvp char.

Sofonisba · Oct 27, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38

I have two accounts, 7 PvE chars, and 1 open slot. I use all of them for PvP.

I can see why one would use PvP custom, it's very flexible and you always have the "best" of what you unlocked. I also enjoy experimenting with elite skills, so I know what my capping priority can be on PvE.

The thing about my PvE characters, is that I "know" them very well already.

I would say I PvP 3/4 of the time with my PvE and 1/4 with my PvP slot.

Hanuman li Tosh · Oct 27, 2005, 07:03 PM // 19:03

PvP FTW no doubt.

Aracos79 · Oct 27, 2005, 07:03 PM // 19:03

I have a PvE W/R that I use when I want a quick IWAY or CA game, but other than that I use PvP characters. I have all skills unlocked and a decent number of runes and mods, so it works fine for me.

Shadowspawn X · Oct 27, 2005, 07:13 PM // 19:13

I use my PvE/PvP charactor. There really is no such thing as a PvE only charactor. He's a Ranger and has all ranger Elites and skills and has three secondaries completely unlocked, all elites and skills for Ele/Me/Wa with a few Necro and Monk skills for certain builds. He faces some discrimination in tombs where some dont like combo charactor and threats him badly and has had the Dragons Lair move pulled on him more than once. Yet he perseveres and has slowly gained some fame. If you are weak minded man/woman and easy to get your feeling hurt I wouldn't recommend using a PvE/PvP charactor in tombs, especially if you stand out in Fissure armor, because you will get grief from pvp onlys, its the rudest area of the game and if you stand out you get it double. But if you are strong willed man/woman and have sufficent skillset unlocked I say go as PvE/PvP let the tombs be another adventure to conquer with your toon. In less than two months I will have all skills unlocked on that toon. At that time holding HoH and the getting the Tiger will be high priority. Technically he is a PvE/PvP charactor so he does both, thats why I made him.